A death occurs once every other street race in this country. And it's because people don't use common sense. There are too many variables on the streets. Some one always gets hurt or killed. I'm not pointing the finger at you Chevy1991 but what you posted is not going to be a popular comment with many. Street races aren't impressive any more. Only idiots do that and I know you're not one of them. By street racing you risk injury to your self and others, damage to your car and to property... the list goes on and on. Let's not forget the police and what happens when they catch you. It gets expensive. When I was young I was there too. Think about how much safer and fun it is on track when there is a measurable amount of safety. It is safer on tracks and those that have switched to tracks will attest to it. Including me. I admire that you like speed but I don't admire the mindless thought of saying that tracks suck. When and if you get cought by the police for your lacking in judgement on the streets you'll sing a different tune. You're a good guy and you should rethink how you put your self out there.  

I have a 1993 Toyota mr2 that i run with my buddy that has an 88' turbo FC that we will drive around looking for open neighborhoods where no one lives in yet and we will rave and do time attacks there. I say if you don't try and put your car including yourself to the limit, what's the point of having a car? Well, i guess for the girls which is nice but I would rather drive and become a better driver.  

hehehe in a couple months track day every day  

I'm seeing that there are people that don't get it. Save for those that have a brain and use a track. Empty roads on an uninhabited street... There is still that "too many variables" thing to consider! Tracks are much, much better and you can go really wide open throttle on track with out those negative variable poking at your back! BOOsted said it the best. Street Racing is for retards! The line for brains has to start some where!  

Some people don't have the money to just go to a track somewhere and test yourself and your car. I would love to be on the track instead of on the streets but there isn't much by me and also you have to be a member to be able to drive on courses. Street racing is NOT for retards, its people who want know what there car can do ( I'm talking about racing around corners not drag : ] ) and some even like the adrenaline. It is unfortunate that there has to be crashes and even deaths, I'm okay with street racing as long as you pay all 110% attention to you and your car.  

I'll take back the retard commen. There was no need for that from me. Forgive me. But for the sake of keeping it real I don't agree with you. There are plenty of car clubs that attend those functions on track and if you look around for one they usually let you into the club. For a fee but they let you in. Car clubs always get things done the right way, in my oppinion. They use tracks instead of streets. Who in their right mind would risk so much when the tracks aren't completely off limits. If it's a matter of money then maybe you need to work a little harder to save for the track. If you spent all that time and MONEY to build your ride then spend a little more time and money to do it on track. In todays world no can give any real excuses any more on why they street race. It's dumb and irresponsible! That's just my oppinion and in no way do I say it insultingly towards any one. The risk is higher on the streets. It's like selling drugs! Eventually you'll get snagged. Or worse...  

kk i find it sad that people make excuses to street race.. like come on it doesnt cost all that much to take a car to the track.. plus there are many tracks out there MANY  plus tracks usally have days just for tuners.for any street racer out there im disappointed  

That's not true at all...

I don't advocate street racing, and I'm not much into drag racing at all really, but Street Racing is NOWHERE NEAR as dangerous as the media and the police force feed the average person. Here's some research I did:


In 2001, the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration (NHTSA) reported that police listed street racing as a factor in 135 fatal crashes. The total was up from 72 street-racing-related fatalities reported in 2000

This past year, 2,600 deaths were caused by cell phone use while driving...

There were 16,885 alcohol-related fatalities in 2005 – 39 percent of the total traffic fatalities for the year.

Total Motor Vehicle fatalities in 2005 - 43,443

Penalties for Street Racing

You can be arrested and have your car impounded for 30 days.

If convicted of street racing or aiding and abetting a street race, you can be imprisoned for up to three months and fined up to $1,000. Spectators are subject to penalties as well.

Your driver's license can be revoked.

Your car insurance may be cancelled or the rates dramatically increased.

Cars in and around illegal street races are often issued equipment violations

Penalties for Drunk Driving

Suspended license

Car confiscated after 3RD offence.

AA Meetings

Jail time

Penalties for Driving and using a cell phone

None (yet)

So basically, everyone needs to get off of their high horses. the amount of deaths due to street racing is incredibly minor when compared to that off cell phone use. Yes, all of you that talk while you drive are statistically worse than any street racer. Doesn't matter if you use a bluetooth either, countless studies have shown that it's not holding the phone that causes accidents, it's the act of being in a conversation while driving.

When compared to talking on a cell, street racing doesn't even cause 6% of the total deaths that result from cell phone usage. When compared to drunk driving, street racing doesn't even cause 1% of the total deaths that result from drunk driving. In relation to the total combined automotive deaths of 2005, street racing accounts for 0.3%! In fact, there are more deaths due to smog in the US than street racing! So if you deleted your cats, have a straight pipe, or have headers, you're a killer too...

There are far more deaths due to drunk driving, despite the penalties being far less. Your car can be impounded on your first street racing offense, but if it's a DUI it's the THIRD offense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_motor_vehicle_deaths_in_U.S._by_year
http://www.alcoholalert.com/drunk-driving-statistics.html
http://www.expertlaw.com/library/drunk_driving/Drunk_Driving_Charge.html
http://www.nhra.com/streetlegal/stats.html


I have more info if you need. I hate scare tactics, and the whole "street racing is the most dangerous thing EVAR" reasoning just doesn't fly.

That having been said, I still say take it to the track. Or better yet, do some autocross! Anyone can dump gobs of money into their car and go fast, but when you can take a stock FWD car and whoop on AWD and RWD cars because you're a better driver? It's the best feeling in the world.  

Ok... And how is 135 street race fatalities not a sign of how dangerous it is. All those other statistics are irrelevant to how bad it is to race on the streets. If you really want to stay relevant, I'll bite. It's hard enough to drive and use a celly. It's hard enough to drive and read a news paper at the same time! My list can and will get longer because it is a long list of stupid things that I've personally seen on the road. Another one, just so you'll see what I mean. Two years back on I95 in Ct., I saw this dude actually get out of the captains chair while the car was still moving, Yeah, you read right, and go to the back of his car... HIS BACK SEAT, mind you, to get a piece of paper. I SAW THIS!
People are crazy, no doubt. But any amount of death that occurs for any reason is too much. Espeacially if it's caused by street racing. THERE IS no EXCUSE TO RACE ON THE STREETS. Think about when these races happen too, AT NIGHT. If it's hard enough to see while driving normally how much worse is it when speeding along. Lights on a pole are not the same as light durring the day. Kepp preaching and making excuses for idiosy!  

Street Racing is dangerous and probably should not be done, however it can be fun and the adrenaline you have going through your body is amazing. I street race a lot at all and i dont plan on doing it all the time. If anyone knows of any MR2 clubs in the IL area please let me know. oh and by the way, I'm only 17 years old and still in school so as for the working harder comment, I'm trying all that i can to work and make as much money as i can before i go back to school. This argument can go on forever about how dumb street racing is but in the end, there are still guys that will do it and none of this is gonna stop.  

You're right! Good advice always fall on deaf ears when it comes to the younger crowd. I say that sarcastically. You only learn when the bad things happen to you. Then you all start preaching afterwards.
I'm not any ones gaurdian here and I surely never want to be. It's not my place, thankfully, BUT, and I mean BUT in a big way, if I ever get smacked by an idiot kids bad judgement with a car due to street racing and I end up getting hurt... 'nough said. I don't want to sound like I'm some sort of vigilanty cause I'm not. I just don't think that kids run on all 8 cylinders when it comes to common sense. Those people that do it like they do will have to learn the hard way when it happens. HOPE that it isn't around me when it does! s12rapido3 has spoken.
Common sense is all you need. It's easy to be hard headed, from the looks of it. None of you who disagree with this have a really good explanation or reason that would convince some one who is level headed on this subject. That's why it's illegal! and that's why 130+ people a year die as a result. That was taken from Mr. Statistics and his more reliable facts. I guess it's ok for that many people to die from street racing every year. Oh well...  

haha I gotta hang it to you, You know what your talking about and everything and i give you props for that. I'm not trying to argue with you on whats right or wrong, and no matter what way you look at it, street racing is always going to be dangerous as hell. I'm sure one day I'll learn. By the way, what kind of car do you have and what style are you, drag or what?  

kk people who say "street racing is no where near as dangerours as media tells people".....HONESTLY...ARE YOU ON CRACK!!!???!?!?!?!?...it doesnt matter how much research you do or say how awsome the rush is! you people are missing the point..STREET+RACING=ILLEGAL! if you can spend 10Gs on a car and get up to like 300HP and or more you can spend the money to got to a track and if not you should sell your car now! and tell me that street racing isnt really dangerours...BULL [SH]..'it' agian(STREET+RACING=ILLEGAL)  

I read what TheHormone wrote and, while laughing in agreement, fell off my chair. I hurt my self pretty good! LOL! I landed on some of my kids' toys. LOL!
To answer your question Mr.Two, I have an 87 S12 that needs some work and an engine to compliment my dream. And I preffer road courses over drag. Don't get me wrong, Drag on track is really fun but there are more chances to break some thing important on your car as opposed to just going around a course and running it. I've been there. It's a drag when it happens. You know? No punn intended. lol. There are different forces at work between the two forms of racing. Both use reaction times to a certain degree but you're brain is working more on road courses. I've done both and preffer road courses. More challenge to the brain. lol  

Regardless if you drive your car or not. Let's say you have to go to the dmv in California; I can't stress this to profoundly. MAKE AN APPOINTMENT. If you don't you'll be there much longer than you want to or can stand. The wait is three hours minimum. And that if they're open. Can any one say MAD MAX or Death RAce. The car Anarchy in California is about to mushroom. I suggest if you work for the dmv that you're doing yoga or any stress exercises that'll help you cause the patience of those who don't make an appointment is lost if not gone completely. Soon people will be asking for permits to weaponize there guns like Death Race. Meanwhile enjoy the Olympics everyone. Again if you'r egoing to the DMV in California please make an appointment.