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Posted: 02/16/06
05:12 PM
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Whats up i am ready to get my 1st car and im really into the tuner scene, and i know that my 1st car cant be an amazing car with to many mods, but i was wondering what some of you all did when you were at this point, what cars did you have what mods did you put in so maybe i can get an idea on what to get. i would really like either a civic, integra or a 240sx any insight is welcome thank you.
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cj1977
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Posted: 02/16/06
06:35 PM
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Look for an Eagle Talon TSI or a Mits. Eclipse GST or GSX. Those have a 4g63 same as in the EVO. Nissan 240sx are good as long as you have the cash to build them up. Do not waste you time with a Civic. Good luck bro.
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SonicSR20
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Posted: 02/19/06
04:59 AM
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alright, a talon or eclipse, its true has the same motor as the evo, but these cars can easily break your wallet. and only a talon comes in 4 wheel drive unless you get a 95' gts eclipse. an integra canjust break your wllet fromthe beginning unless you are looking at an early 90's model, which are not bad. i woud actually prefer these ones, but i am more for older body styles than newer ones. a nissan is not a bad choice, i am looking to get one myself too. a 240sx fastback is not a badly priced car actually, i have found some on ebay running with a standard and around 140k miles on them for less than $1500. but the problem is you will have to do some work on these cars, so if you dont have much mechanical experience you better make sure you become friends with some one who idoes. a civic is not a bad choice either, but if you dont get one with v-tech you had better be really easy with the shifting. i have a friend who went thru 4 blocks in his 99' last year because he shifted at 6k too many times. all in all, i would personally recommend nissan, just because they run forever. integra would be my next choice. my question is what are you looking to get into, drifting, street racing, circuit, drag?
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wonner
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Posted: 02/19/06
05:11 PM
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....and only a talon comes in 4 wheel drive unless you get a 95' gts eclipse.
This statement is incorrect. Do you have any clue what you are talking about, SonicSR20?? All GTX Eclipses are AWD, regardless of year. GTSs are FWD. DSMs(AWD) are known to have weak drivetrains, especially when modified. I would say DSMs are a giant headache, all in all. I would suggest a 240sx.
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SonicSR20
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Posted: 02/19/06
09:38 PM
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well im sorry that i got my lettering wrong. i have not heard of an eclipse that was 4 wheel drive after 95' unless they were cusom built. maybe thats just me though. i work in an aut shop everyday, i happen to come across quite a few eclipse in there so im gonna stand by my word until its been proven wrong. but i do agree with you about getting a nissan.
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Loki
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Posted: 02/19/06
09:46 PM
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I would suggest an Rx-7, if you get it in N/A form it is incredibly reliable, a turbo 7 makes alot more power though. And for not alot of cash you could get a Turbonetics T04 setup and scrap the stock twin scroll turbo in the FC (1986-1991) Okay I lied that might cost quite abit. However I dont like nissans although that may not be a bad idea, anything diamond star motors (Mitsu, Eagle, Plymouth) wouldnt be a bad idea. A Civic, well lets just say no.... for all around power I would search hard for a newer 300ZX or a Supra, the supra being in production since the early eighties is still formidable today. You could also find an older Turbo 300ZX. Overall just look for something that appeals to you, although I highly reccomend an Rx-7 ![]()
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Posted: 02/20/06
09:02 AM
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Hey thanx for the help every1 to answer the question from b4 I would like a well powered car, that can also turn n brake. I need to be able to do more then drive in a straight line and I like drifting so I think ill go for the 240sx. Thanx for all the help and any more insight keep it coming but here's my next question... I'm from ny any1 know wwhere I'd be able to find a 240sx???
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Posted: 02/20/06
01:10 PM
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Why are you guys giving him examples of cars he has no business being in? DSMs are expensive to modify, and probably more than a beginner can handle anyways.
My advice, keep it simple. If youre into the tuning scene, stick to cars that have plenty of aftermarket support (Civics, Integras, 240SX, AE86, etc) and are cheap to buy/maintain/modify.
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DRSLT1
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Posted: 02/20/06
08:06 PM
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....and only a talon comes in 4 wheel drive unless you get a 95' gts eclipse.
This statement is incorrect. Do you have any clue what you are talking about, SonicSR20?? All GTX Eclipses are AWD, regardless of year. GTSs are FWD. DSMs(AWD) are known to have weak drivetrains, especially when modified. I would say DSMs are a giant headache, all in all. I would suggest a 240sx.
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alright, a talon or eclipse, its true has the same motor as the evo, but these cars can easily break your wallet.
Easily break your wallet? Giant headache? I think your mistaken sir, usualy the only people that find that DSMs are a "giant headache" are the rejects who don't have much mechanical experiance, and don't know their ass from a hole in the ground. Youll have to excuse me, this isn't nessisarily a direct attack at you guys, but I'm truly sick of the *** rumors and stereotypes that people throw out, not knowing half of what they are talking about.
It's all the same thing. "DSMs are unreliable they always break, blah blah blah" "hur hur hur, ever hear of 'crankwalk' dur". You'll ask them if they have ever owned one, or what makes them really so unreliable, and all they can do is spout out some kind of stupid [censored] like "dur, my cousin's friend's brother had one, and it was always broken down, he had to do work and stuff on it, durka dur".
The point I'm getting at, and I'm sure the regulars on these boards have heard it 1000 times from me, is that DSMs are not any more reliable or unreliable as the next vehicle. But being 10-15 years old, beaten to death their whole lives, and then modded by some [censored] idiot who dosn't know what they are doing, and blabbers on about how unreliable it is has given these cars a bad rap. DSMs are probably the best bang for your buck "import". Period. 240s are nice if you want to have a car that you pretty much need to either build for turbo or swap an engine in to go fast. Personally, I like AWD, and a platform that has been proven to make 500+hp on the STOCK bottom end time and time again, and can be made into a 12sec 1/4 mile machine for less than $2000 in mods.
To all those who run their [censored] mouths about somthing that they have no experiance with, or correct knowlege about, shut the [censored] up, and quit spreading false information on the internet to other ricer's like yourselves, and stick your nose back in your copy of Super Weak.
Thanks
Paul
PS, anybody wants to do any "research" to see for yourself on these vehicles, try a few sites before you run your mouth.
www.dsmtuners.com
www.vfaq.com
www.4G63HP.com
http://1000q.dsm.org/
Edit: Wonner, I looked back and noticed your an RX7 owner. Thats pretty funny talking about DSMs being "unreliable" and all, seeing that most RX7 owners blow their garbage up all the time. No sir, they arent as unreliable as DSMs with their old tired engines with poor ring seal and worn out turbos, no no.... RX7s just pretty much blow out apex seals at the slightest hint of detonation, and blow up rotor faces ect. Yes, the triangle engine is much better....
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Loki
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Posted: 02/20/06
10:32 PM
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You know what I was going to sit back and let you go, but no. Okay [censored], your talking about spouting mis-information, then dont start your own stream of stupid mindless blather. If a moron got ahold of a DSM they would do the same thing alot of morons do to rotaries. I have owned my Rx-7 since 1981 and its still running strong, my family has owned rotaries since the early 70's. Excellent motor, known to run 700-1200 BHP on the stock internals. The diff breaks long before the engine does. The 787B ran the entire Lemans season and the 24 hrs without rebuilding the 700HP 4 rotor engine. While every other team using piston engines was forced to rebuild after every race. some piston engines didnt even last the 24 hrs.
No Rotaries are not better, Pistons arent better. But if you attack someone for acts of ignorance dont spew your own ignorance. THANK YOU!
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Posted: 02/21/06
01:48 AM
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I DONT KNOW WHAT WE'RE YELLING ABOUT!!!
RX7s and DSMs all suck. Bahahaha! I kid, I kid.
To each his own fellas, but cant we all just get along? Arguing on internet forums is like the special olympics... Even if you win, youre still a retard.
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Loki
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Posted: 02/21/06
06:21 AM
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.................. I dislike you............. To Orig poster, get a 1st gen Acura Legend! dont do anything to it. Enjoy the full leather interior and power EVERYTHING!! then drive it for a few years and think about how much you love that big ol' V6!
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DRSLT1
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Posted: 02/21/06
06:48 AM
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You know what I was going to sit back and let you go, but no. Okay [censored], your talking about spouting mis-information, then dont start your own stream of stupid mindless blather. If a moron got ahold of a DSM they would do the same thing alot of morons do to rotaries. I have owned my Rx-7 since 1981 and its still running strong, my family has owned rotaries since the early 70's. Excellent motor, known to run 700-1200 BHP on the stock internals. The diff breaks long before the engine does. The 787B ran the entire Lemans season and the 24 hrs without rebuilding the 700HP 4 rotor engine. While every other team using piston engines was forced to rebuild after every race. some piston engines didnt even last the 24 hrs.
No Rotaries are not better, Pistons arent better. But if you attack someone for acts of ignorance dont spew your own ignorance. THANK YOU!
Like I said, ANY car can be unreliable if not cared for it's entire life, dogged out, and then modded. I just thought it was funny that an RX7 owner was "calling the kettle black" so to speak, when FCs and FDs are somtimes known for being "unreliable". I know that people can own and mod RX7s and have a somwhat reliable daily driver, I'm just talking trash and fustrated over people's lack of knowlege on anything that isn't pertaining to their vehicle of choice.
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wonner
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Posted: 02/21/06
05:07 PM
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Edit: Wonner, I looked back and noticed your an RX7 owner. Thats pretty funny talking about DSMs being "unreliable" and all, seeing that most RX7 owners blow their garbage up all the time.....
I guess when you looked back to notice what kind of car I drive, you must've forgot to read my post...I never said DSMs were "unreliable". I said their all wheel drivetrains were known to be weak when modified and in my opinion("I would say")they are a headache. No need to be so defensive.
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Stinger05
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Posted: 02/21/06
07:12 PM
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Whats up i am ready to get my 1st car and im really into the tuner scene, and i know that my 1st car cant be an amazing car with to many mods, but i was wondering what some of you all did when you were at this point, what cars did you have what mods did you put in so maybe i can get an idea on what to get. i would really like either a civic, integra or a 240sx any insight is welcome thank you.
I'm biased (about to buy my 4th 240SX)...they're tough (truck engine)and have a ton of aftermarket support (more now than when they were new) and very easy to work on.
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