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phatintegra phatintegra
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 11/99
Posted: 01/27/06
11:12 PM

I'm not into those dump fake movies like F&F. I'm telling you what a B18 (4cyld) motor can do.

I have my own shop that does everything but tuning.

What type of race your looking into Drag, Rally, AutoX, Street soemthing to think about. Don't trash on imports. I have allot of respect on domestic because I used to own a 76 Nova SS manual (rare) with a 454 in the past that I and my dad built. If I were you I do more research.

I hate people like you that bash on Imports and the imports people bash on Domestic. If you think about it we are all into cars and the sound of the motor. This upset me because you think you guys are better then others. You been at it since there start racing imports on the drag strips but in the USA domestic was running way back before I was born (1970's) just face it you can't say domestic is better then imports you take stock mustang not even a GT I will smoke it with a 4cld Integra that I have done so many time then you take a GT mustang I be up on the rear bumper it's going to pull on me in the low end (TQ) but once my mid range to top end power I be right behind it. You take a SVT Cobra, Saleen or Roush Stage 3 that's another ball game then you prob want to conisder racing a Supra, Rx7, M5, M3, STI, maybe an Evo etc.  


 
cj1977 cj1977
Enthusiast | Posts: 480 | Joined: 10/04
Posted: 01/27/06
11:48 PM

Like any other movie such as F&F in particular these type of movies are in the catagory of "fictional".  They may have the real "thing" such as real 350z's, EVO's, Supra's etc. but some of us need to realize that F&F like many other fictional type movies are for entertainment and not for documentary educational purposes. So you can decide to or not to see the movie.  


 
lldjslim lldjslim
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 01/27/06
11:59 PM

First of all *** is Crap,

So this is when your V-Tec is suppose kick in right.  Thats all you Honda's guys brag about V-Tec this, V-Tec that.  I bet you and others out there like you don't even know how V-Tec works, and probably don't even know what it stands for.

You really have to stop whatching The Fast and Furious, just because you saw that Honda Civic outrun that American Muscle Car on the big screen you thinks yours can do the same too.  Hey dumbass wake up, this is a movie. O.K.  You think that when you dress up your shitty Honda up w/ stickers like GReddy, NOS, etc., add a Coffee Can Exhaust, Cold Air Intake, Body Kit, Clear Tail-lights, a Wing, a Type R Badge and put on your racing gloves your Honda will gain 800HP+++.  This is really a SAD PHENOMENON.

RACING IS IN AMERICAS BLOOD.  AMERICAN MUSCLE CARS were ahead of there time.  Japan knows nothing about racing.  They were not there when American Muscle Cars was ruling this planet back in the 60s and 70's before they went on the endangered spieces list because of high insurance rates, stricker emission laws and the oil crisis.  Most of all of Japans knowlegde for racing comes from American.  They come over here and spy, take notes and watch.  All Japan is good for is Electronics they should just stick to what they do best and racing is not what they do best.  American Muscle cars are all about pure P-O-W-E-R.  Whenever you can have the front end of a American Muscle Car come up off the ground and do a wheelie like a motorcycle that is just pure P-O-W-E-R.  You just don't take no 4cyl. lawnmower for an engine, front-wheeled drived mickey mouse piece of *** that all Hondas are and try to make them race cars.  

So tell  me whats a 1.6L going to do.  Are you going to boost it by adding a turbo, run NOS w/ it and after doing that your engine will be heading for the nearest grave because your engine was not moddified to handle NOS, or do a engine swap.  Either way you put it your going to have to drop at least 5 grand to even get that piece of *** going somewhere.  And don't even think that 1.6L = 160HP.  That is just complety ***  You dumb sh-ts talk about 100 horsepower per liter and all that sh-t, but think about it. If the legendary 426 Hemi which was 7.0 litres it was factory built to be that effecient it would have made 700 horsepower. Insurance companies and the US Government would have shut Chryslers ass down.  You  also need to take note that most of you Honda drivers thinks that it is all about the HP, again not true you have to have something to go w/ that HP and that is TORQUE my friend and without TORQUE your HP is means nothing.

And if you think that your Dual Over Cams (DOHC) designs has an advatage over a American Muscle Car think again dumbass.

Nothing will ever replace the American pushrod engine. While its able to make upwards of 7000 horsepower and run sub 4 sec 1/4 miles, i don't think it will ever leave the track nor will it lose its status as the world dominant force in racing.

True that Ferrari is faster than a Mustang, Vette or Camaro, but that small displacement V12 is already pushed to the max. Theres no room for anything more. But you can dump a few thousand into our American V8's and literally mop the floor w/ a Ferrari and still cost way under the ticket price of a Ferrari. Not too mention also sound better doing it too.

Oh yeah!  I here this one all the time from all of you Honda boys, American Muscle Cars can't Drift.  Who the *** wants to see 2 crappy slow ass imports on a mountain driving on there sides and screeching tires, Boring.  Its just so funny how the front tires spin on a Front-Wheel Drive car. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ha.

So I advise you to take your cheap ass, 30 pounds of Torque, 18second, Grocery Getter, Coffee Can Exhaust, Sticker Box Honda back to Japan.

P.S.  Your Honda has 1.6 liters and my Code-Red Mountain Dew has 2 liters  


 
cj1977 cj1977
Enthusiast | Posts: 480 | Joined: 10/04
Posted: 01/28/06
07:33 AM

What do you drive?  American (it's really made some where else) or Japanese. You are really ignorant.  I have not raves against any make of car made by any ethnic group.  I will not even waste my time on someone like you.  


 
lldjslim lldjslim
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 01/28/06
08:31 AM

I drive a 2004 Ford Ranger Edge w/ a 3.0L rated at 154HP / 180lbs of torque stock.

You Honda boys can get me right now, but lets be fair I'm still stock.

So I say remove your Boost, Cold Air Intake, and your NOS and lets race stock for stock.  My truck will eat that shitty Civic for breakfast.

Now, I do plan on supercharging this engine in the future w/ the Whipple SuperCharging Kit.  It will then be rated at 250HP / 290lbs of Torque.  And that my friend is alot of HP for a truck that weighs a little under 3,000lbs.

And once that happends you Honda boys will not be able to beat me even w/ your crappy GnotReddy turbo chargers.

I will be saying, "You just got your ass whipped by a whipple."  


 
phatintegra phatintegra
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 11/99
Posted: 01/30/06
04:21 AM

Quote:

I drive a 2004 Ford Ranger Edge w/ a 3.0L rated at 154HP / 180lbs of torque stock.




2002 Honda Civic SI
Spec sheet
Engine
Engine Code : K20A3
Type : In-line four, aluminum block and head
Valvetrain : DOHC, four valves per cylinder, i-VTEC variable valve timing
Displacement : 1998cc
Bore & Stroke : 86.0 mm x 86.0 mm
Compression Ratio : 9.8:1
Claimed Horsepower : 160 hp @ 6500 rpm
Claimed Torque : 132 lb-ft @ 5000 rpm
Redline : 6800 rpm

Drivetrain
Layout : Transverse front engine, front-wheel drive Transmission Gear Ratios
1 : 3.062:1
2 : 1.769:1
3 : 1.212:1
4 : 0.921:1
5 : 0.738:1

Final drive : 4.764:1
Differential : Open

Exterior Dimensions
Curb Weight : 2744 lbs
Weight Distribution F/R : 61/39
Overall Length : 165.6 in.
Wheelbase : 101.2 in.
Overall Width : 66.7 in.
Track F/R : 57.8/57.8 in.
Height : 56.5 in.

Suspension
Front : MacPherson Strut
Rear : Double wishbone with semi-trailing lower control arm and lateral upper control arm

Brakes
Front : 10.3-inch vented discs, single-piston sliding calipers
Rear : 10.2-inch solid discs, single-piston sliding calipers

Wheels and Tires
Wheels : 16 x 6-inch aluminum
Tires : 195/60R-15 Michelin Pilot MXV-4


You might have more TQ but remember the weight of the vehicle play a roll with TQ and HP.

As VTEC stands for Variable Valve Timing and Lift Electronic Control is an electronic and mechanical system in some Honda engines that allows the engine to effectively have multiple camshafts. As the engine moves into different rpm ranges, the engine's computer can activate alternate lobes on the camshaft and change the cam's timing. In this way, the engine gets the best features of low-speed and high-speed camshafts in the same engine.  

 
zeroscail zeroscail
User | Posts: 187 | Joined: 01/06
Posted: 01/30/06
09:02 PM

just curious what bad ass drives ive had and srt-4 "a 4 cyl car" for about 5 months and all the camaros,mustangs,vetts or whatever that come up on me heavent had a chance so far..and mustangs are the worst i know 4 and 6 cyl cars arent compeating with 3000 hp drags yet but as for street there smokin everything.......  


 
lldjslim lldjslim
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 01/30/06
10:51 PM

Yeah, Yeah and that piece of *** is boosted too.  Your already maxed out.  The only MOD you could possiable do is add an after market CAI. So what are you going to do next. Try to save on weight but gutting your interior, or maybe even inject your engine w/ a shot of NOS and if you do that your *** will be headed in the nearest junkyard too because your engine cannot handle NOS.  

When you said you beat a Corvette, your lying your ass off, I'm not buying that one, I bet you that the guy in Vette didn't even want to waste his gas on your piece of sh-t.  Now those Camaros and Mustangs that you may have beaten are probably still stock and I bet they were probably the V6 versions not the V8's.  Now give those cars a booster like a Turbo or Superchager and they will dust your ass before you even shift to second gear.

Thats the only way you guys can get your crappy ass 4-bangers going somewhere you have to boost it.  And that my friend is cheating.  I bet you if you remove your f--ckin boost those Camaros and Mustangs and my 2004 Ford Ranger will wax the floor with you because without that boost your SRT-4 is just a plain ol' ecobox like a Honda Civic.

Now when I get my booster I will dust your ass too, because my truck will be rated at 250HP and 290ftlbs of torque and thats 20 more HP than your crappy ass Dodge SRT-4 *** Neon.  And if you want to gain yourself 50HP go and get yourself a Type R badge and some racing gloves then you will be rated at 280HP and also while your at it paint your interior that will give you another 15HP so now your at 290HP your crunching the numbers kid.  

And the name of the SuperCharger that I'm getting is called a Whipple.  It means that you just got your ass whipped by a whipple to all of you.  Now goto www.whipplesuperchargers.com if you think I'm lying its all there, the kit cost $2,500 and thats pretty cheap for a booster.

So I say to all of you 4-bangers w/ boosters Watch Out!!!
Because, now it will be my turn to have some fun and I will smoke all of your asses.  

The Ford Rangers will be the new Speed Kings of the Streets and were coming to take over all of you.

So be afraid, be very afraid.

The Rangers are coming, the Rangers are coming.  


 
phatintegra phatintegra
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 11/99
Posted: 01/31/06
07:28 AM

Dude did u look at the numbers. I don't know anything about the SRT-4. After I look at the 1/4 mile chart on a stock ranger and a supercharge ranger. I don't know what to tell you man but did you look at the chart?




 


 
flatblackcivic flatblackcivic
New User | Posts: 29 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 01/31/06
07:04 PM

well thats a good arguement for his honda killer?  


 
zeroscail zeroscail
User | Posts: 187 | Joined: 01/06
Posted: 01/31/06
09:25 PM

dude i hope your playin cuz your lost as hell!! vetts arent that fast. dude there is so many upgrades for my ride and others you wouldent know what to do with your self if you ever did find your way.....mine is still stock and yes maby the camaros and mustangs were too but they were 8ts i know this....there slow!!!! ive seen what theese"rice burners" can do first hand and 8ts are having a hard time keepin up on the streed....for real though i hope your jus bein a sarcastic cocky [censored] because if your for real i feel sorry for you  


 
zeroscail zeroscail
User | Posts: 187 | Joined: 01/06
Posted: 01/31/06
09:35 PM

HONDA KILLER LMFAO more like a GEO killer  


 
lldjslim lldjslim
New User | Posts: 27 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 01/31/06
10:28 PM

Those specs that you are looking at were tested on a 4WD drive Ranger not a 2WD.  A 4WD Ranger weighs more because it has a transfer case, another drive shaft, and another differential.

The 2WD Ranger will run a 1/4 mile in the low 12's w/ the SuperCharger.  

My truck weighs a little under 3,000lbs so my HP to weight ratio will have an advatage over a Honda.  And I have a Torque advatage too Hondas don't have no Torque and Torque is what wins the game.  Why do you think the VolksWagon Golf GTI out performed the Acura Integra Type R?  Because the VolksWagon had more T-O-R-Q-U-E. But you Honda boys belive in HP not torque and thats why you guys lose all the time.

But I'm going beyond what the SuperCharger is going to put me at.

The extra mods that I plan on doing include is:

PermaCool Engine Oil Cooler = ($75.00) off E-bay
Whipple Intercooler Kit = ???????? Horsepower ($300.00)
K&N Air filter = 3 - 5 Horsepower ($20.00) off E-bay
JBA Headers = 15 - 20 Horsepower ($444.00)
PermaCool Electric Fan = 8 - 10 Horsepower ($90.00) off E-bay
Mad Dog Underdrive Pulley = 8 - 12 Horsepower ($85.00)
XCalibrator 2 (SCT) Performance Tuner = 12 Horsepower ($400.00)
Flowmaster 40 series Muffler = 5 - 8 Horsepower ($50.00) off E-bay
Holley NOS setup = ??????? Horsepower ($500.00)

Yes its going to cost money because speed cost money.  But thats cheap compared to what you Honda boys have to do to make your crappy Civics go fast. The price of a GNotReddy Turbo kit will set you back $5,000 and still will not put you over the 200HP mark.  Thats more than my SuperCharger and the list of mods I plan on doing.  So making my truck go fast is a whole lot cheaper than trying to make your crappy Civics go fast.

So just to shut all of you up I will be at over 300HP when I get done and I also planning on lowering my truck and putting on Racing wheels w/ Z-rated tires.

So take that Honda.  


 
phatintegra phatintegra
New User | Posts: 8 | Joined: 11/99
Posted: 02/02/06
09:23 AM

2004 Ford Ranger Performance & Efficiency Standard Features
-2,970 cc 3 liters V 6 front engine with 89 mm bore, 79.8 mm stroke, 9.7 compression ratio, overhead valve and two valves per cylinder 99V
-Unleaded fuel 87
-Fuel economy EPA highway (mpg): 23 and EPA city (mpg): 18
-Multi-point injection fuel system
-16.5 gallon main unleaded fuel tank
-Power: 115 kW , 154 HP SAE @ 5,200 rpm; 180 ft lb , 244 Nm @ 3,900 rpm

2004 Ford Ranger Handling, Ride & Braking Standard Features
-Four-wheel ABS
-3.73:1 axle ratio
-Two disc brakes including two ventilated discs
-Electronic brake distribution
-Immobilizer
-Spacesaver steel rim under body spare wheel
-Wishbone front suspension independent with stabilizer bar and coil springs , beam rear suspension rigid with leaf springs

2004 Ford Ranger Exterior & Aerodynamics Standard Features
-Black front and rear bumpers
-Driver and passenger externally adjustable black door mirrors
-External dimensions: overall length (inches): 187.5, overall width (inches): 69.4, overall height (inches): 64.9, ground clearance (inches): 10, wheelbase (inches): 111.4, front track (inches): 58.6, rear track (inches): 57.3 and curb to curb turning circle (feet): 37.7
-Complex surface lens halogen bulb headlights
-Heat reflective glass
-Metallic paint
-Straight side pickup bed
-Fixed rear window
-Rear platform step
-Tinted glass on cabin and rear
-Trailer towing preparation
-Weights: gross vehicle weight rating (lbs) 4,380, curb weight (lbs) 3,100, gross trailer weight braked (lbs) 2,640 and max payload (lbs) 1,260
-Windshield wipers with variable intermittent wipe

2004 Ford Ranger Interior Standard Features
-12v power outlet: front and 1
-Air conditioning
-Fixed mast antenna
-Audio system with AM/FM and CD player
-Cargo area dimensions: length (inches): 72.2, front width (inches): 54.2, width between arches (inches): 40.4, height (inches): 16.4 and loading floor height (inches): 28.5
-Rear tailgate cargo doors
-Clock
-Partial dashboard and floor console with open storage box
-Courtesy lights
-Cruise control
-Front seats cup holders fixed
-Door ajar warning
-Door pockets/bins for driver seat and passenger seat
-Floor covering:
-Floor mats
-Driver front airbag , passenger front airbag with occupant switch off
-Split bench driver, passenger and center seat
-Height adjustable 3-point reel front seat belts on driver seat , height adjustable 3-point reel front seat belts on passenger seat , lap static front seat belts on center seat integrated
-Front seat center armrest
-Glove compartment
-Two head restraints on front seats
-Internal dimensions: front headroom (inches): 39.3, front hip room (inches): 52.7, front leg room (inches): 42.4 and front shoulder room (inches): 53.8
-Power steering
-Rear view mirror
-Cloth seat upholstery with additional cloth
-Seating: three seats
-Four speaker(s)
-Leather covered steering wheel with tilt adjustment
-Tachometer
-Passenger vanity mirror
-Ventilation system

Stock to Stock
You said TQ is everything what happen your on the HWY and let say a Honda Civic is comming up behind you will you race it?

What ur going to use TQ for 1/4 mile Drag Strip in the city driving?

You keep saying TQ is everything what about HP?

Oh by the way money is everything. Your braging about your Ranger is the cheapest way to go but it all adds up in $$$

Then your talking about your stock Ranger can blow these Honda boys out from Stock to Stock?

As a shop owner you need money. At the end of your project Calculate on how much you spent on parts and then Labor.


Oh by the way that 154HP 180TQ is motor dyno not to the wheel go dyno it on the rollers and then put up your numbers.  


 
yovanilla yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 02/03/06
02:15 PM

Quote:


Thats the only way you guys can get your crappy ass 4-bangers going somewhere you have to boost it.  And that my friend is cheating.  I bet you if you remove your f--ckin boost those Camaros and Mustangs and my 2004 Ford Ranger will wax the floor with you because without that boost your SRT-4 is just a plain ol' ecobox like a Honda Civic.





saying that forced induction is cheating = gay.

Quote:


Now when I get my booster I will dust your ass too, because my truck will be rated at 250HP and 290ftlbs of torque and thats 20 more HP than your crappy ass Dodge SRT-4 *** Neon.  




calling forced induction cheating when you are about to get some forced induction yourself = gay.

Quote:


And the name of the SuperCharger that I'm getting is called a Whipple.  It means that you just got your ass whipped by a whipple to all of you.  Now goto www.whipplesuperchargers.com if you think I'm lying its all there, the kit cost $2,500 and thats pretty cheap for a booster.

So I say to all of you 4-bangers w/ boosters Watch Out!!!
Because, now it will be my turn to have some fun and I will smoke all of your asses.  

The Ford Rangers will be the new Speed Kings of the Streets and were coming to take over all of you.

So be afraid, be very afraid.

The Rangers are coming, the Rangers are coming.




driving a ford ranger = gay.  putting a supercharger on a ford ranger = gay.  putting a supercharger on a ford ranger and still not breaking out of the 15's = gay.  

CN: you are gay.  find a tree.  

 
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