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fragmortus
New User | Posts: 31 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/19/05
01:48 PM

i own a v-8 pile so just if ur car redlines at 9k doesnt mean u can reach 195 w/out turbo or super charger its all about raw motor

p.s. i plan on adden NOS Hahahahahaha good luck keppin up  


 
DRSLT1
Enthusiast | Posts: 395 | Joined: 03/04
Posted: 10/19/05
03:21 PM

Cool, I love "V8 piles". I've owned quite a few myself, including a 1992 C4 LT1 Corvette, and two G body Monte Carlos. I currently have two DSMs (turbocharged AWD Eclipses, Talons, and Lasers)that are modified enough to take out some V8 cars, minus Z06 Corvettes and the like, lol. What kind of car do you drive?  


 
slipstream
User | Posts: 56 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 10/19/05
04:16 PM

Quote:

i own a v-8 pile so just if ur car edlines at 9k doesnt mean u can reach 195 w/out turbo or super charger its all about raw motor

p.s. i plan on adden NOS Hahahahahaha good luck keppin up


oh crap nos oh no I'm shakking in my boots, not wtf! First off what type of car do you have, second how much nos and what do you have for an engine? If its a tiny mustang with a little 302 in it pft when I get my car back next week I can smoke your ass! Know you ask why did he say that well, I have a mazda miata 1997 ya that sounds whimpy! But hey listen to this I'm sticking a honda s2000 engine and transmission in it and put two turbos on it and the rest of the deal, it will be putting out 356.7 hp and I'll be putting a shot off 150 nos in that sucker what do you think of that big v8 man? My car is rear wheel drive, oh and I took about 300 pounds off of it, so my car only weighs about half a ton now what? My 0-60 time is going to be about 4.3 seconds can you do that, Oh and a new ferrari can do 0-60 in 3.0 seconds so what does that tell you? I will be doing high tens and low elevens on the quater can you do that?  

 
fragmortus
New User | Posts: 31 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/19/05
05:13 PM

its a stroked out 302 makin 950 whp at the rear wheels so [censored] ur little turbos and my quarter is in the 6s w/ a top speed of 195 ( i need more room to get it over 200) and my 0-60 is i dont know the nos is going to be a custom kit u cant get unless i tell u wat parts is in and it should kick out around a 750 hp boost  


 
DRSLT1
Enthusiast | Posts: 395 | Joined: 03/04
Posted: 10/19/05
05:26 PM

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its a stroked out 302 makin 950 whp at the rear wheels so [censored] ur little turbos  



Woah, there guy! No need to crap all over yourself there.... "950whp at the rear wheels". nice. Out of a 302. Care to let me in on the details of the engine? Bottom end components, valve train, ect? I'm curious to see what a 950 hp 302 consists of...

I must say though, I'm calling *** on this one. I don't think that you have anything with 95hp, let alone 950.  

 
tigger
User | Posts: 136 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/19/05
06:43 PM

Yup. BS. 950hp 302 my ass. Prove it. And slipstream, talking about what your GOING to build is a shitty response. Especially when you talk about how your going to use twin turbos and nitrous to make...500hp. Thats weak. And if all you can get out of a 500hp car, (one that only weighs a ton), is a 4.3 sec 0-60mph, then your weak. 500hp is a joke when you start dealing with built V8s. The new Z06 has 505hp, and its naturally aspirated. With a warranty. And it will last alot longer than a built S2000 motor.  


 
yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 10/19/05
07:19 PM

ok first of all why the hell is anyone talking about 0-60 times?  they dont mean squat and theres no real world way to measure them anyway.

second, 500hp is nothing to scoff at from any engine.  that is alot of power no matter what.  try driving a watercooled 911 turbo s.  sweet jesus.

third, on the 950hp 302 i'm gonna pull out the 'ol here.  nobody would use a 302 to build an extremely high hp machine  


 
tigger
User | Posts: 136 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/19/05
07:30 PM

0-60 doesnt matter? WTF are you talking about, its only the best way of measuring a cars off the line performance. It cant be measured? All you need is a radar gun and a stop watch. Car goes. Start watch. Radar gun reads 60. Stop time. Wow. That was hard. Im not scoffing at 500hp. That hes bragging about 350hp, with a 150hp shot, is weak. Plenty of people build extremely bad ass Ford 302s. They are definitely capable of 800-900hp. That guy, however, is BS'n.  


 
yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 10/19/05
08:43 PM

so how many people do you know that have a radar gun and a fast acting hand to accurately use the stopwatch?  because where i come from people go to the drag strip where they have all the right equipment - but they dont measure 0-60.  

0-60 is a time-to-speed measurement, and therefore not as viable as a time-to-distance measurement.  it's too gear-dependant.  plus you may not even get into the real powerband of some cars - the saab viggen for instance does not hit full boost until 3rd gear.

consider this: you could have 2 cars that run virtually identical 1/4 times and traps, but if the first car is geared shorter than the second, he might have to make an extra shift before 60mph where the other guy does not.  so it may "appear" that the first car is slower than the other.  so are you going to tell me the second car is faster?  


 
fragmortus
New User | Posts: 31 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/20/05
04:33 AM

ok haters i started w/ a ford racing 4 bolt main block that stroked to 347 *** w/ eagle crankshaft and rods.i have forged pistons w/ a 10:1 compression cam has .565/.574 lift w/ a holley dominator carb i wont even tel u my gas millage its sad
and a 302 is all i can fit in there iwould use a bigger motor but i have too use the jaws of life to get it in there  


 
yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 10/20/05
07:19 AM

oh!  sorry, brain fart. for some reason i looked at "302" and habitually thought to myself "gm 305".  yeah, you can make alot of power with a ford 302.  i still want to see a dyno and track slip from you though  


 
tigger
User | Posts: 136 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/20/05
09:18 AM

So are you saying it will be easier for someone to measure thier 60ft times than 0-60mph? You can easily get a very close estimate of your 0-60mph times by having a passenger time from when you take off to 60. use a little common sense.

And how is a time-speed measurement not as viable as time-distance? Is speed not MILES per hour? If im not mistaken that is a distance measurement. There is no difference. They are both excellent ways to measure a cars performance, so why do automobile manufacturers, car magazines, and just about every other source utilize 0-60mph times? Because it is easier for a regular joe to understand 0 to 60 mph. Most people dont take theyre cars to the dragstrip to compare 60 foot times. They do however, accelerate up to highway speed daily.

As for the nice little drag racing example, what does it matter? The cars "run virtually identical 1/4 times and traps". So what? We are talking about 0-60mph right? Then yes, in that aspect the second car would be the faster car. Do you get it? 0-60mph AND 0-60 foot times are both off the line acceleration measurements. So why even bring up 1/4 times? Im not saying 0-60mph is the ultimate measurement of a cars performance. It is one of the most accepted and best ways to measure a cars performance off the line.  


 
fragmortus
New User | Posts: 31 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/20/05
10:22 AM

u know wat ill try to get u that slip soon but i have to beg the track owner to get the stuff he needs to measure the 0-60 time cheap ass time, untill then im askin the local cop to help me w/ my 0-60 time thats wat i get for livin in the middle of no where  


 
yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 10/20/05
10:41 AM

no, it's not a time to distance measurement - because different cars will get to the speed over different differences.  as far as why all the rags use 0-60 times... well i can put it this way - lots of people eat at mcdonalds, but its not cause the big mac is a great burger.  its just sort of a commonality (thank motor trend for this commonality).  

and no, your friend CAN NOT accurately time your 0-60 run from the passenget seat with a stopwatch.  taking your friend out of the equation entirely (we'll assume he's got lightning fingers) it wouldn't matter because all speedometers are innacurate to a point.  

you could argue till you're blue in the face about how 0-60 is a great measurement, but at the end of the day it still wouldn't matter - its just not enough gauge the true power of one car vs the other.  


 
fragmortus
New User | Posts: 31 | Joined: 10/05
Posted: 10/20/05
03:11 PM

wtf do u mean bs any power level is possible w/ a well bulit v-8  


 
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