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DRSLT1
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Posted: 08/08/05 08:14 PM
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Pardon me for "stirring the [censored]" so to say, but for the longest time, I've tried to grasp the concept of the whole "JDM" thing. I mean, I basicly know what it consists of: making your car "authentic" so to speak, with that of Japanese parts, or OEM Japanese parts of that particular make. But I really think that people have taken it to far.
For example, I've recently met a local guy who's Acura RSX has been outfitted with "authetic JDM parts", including sweatbands that bare the name "Spoon" on his brake and clutch fluid resevoirs. Now, mabey I'm a little slow here, but buying $30 (or more) a piece sweatbands for your fluid resivours is "cool"? He also has other "mad JDM tyte" parts such as special Japanese wheels, Spoon stickers, with the little bird (apparently kitchen utensils and cranes go hand in hand, and are also cool) and plans to outfit his car with some individual throttle bodies, which though very expensive, yeild very small gains in terms of power and overall performance.
I find this amazingly retarted, and wonder why the "tuner" crowd chooses to do this. Though slightly better aesteticly than the former popular all-out-rice mode, I find it incredible that one would spend thousands of dollars on a car to make it "authenticly" Japanese, though the car looks not much different, nor do most of the parts do anything versus USDM parts. I also think it's funny when people "badge" their cars with those from their Japanese counterparts. Like "oh, sorry sir, I couldn't tell you drive a 240SX, those "SILVIA" badges throw me waaaay off....". Please.... I find that most offenders (I'm so suprised) are Honda owners. I don't know, I'm just so confused. Mabey it's because I come from the DSM spectrum of the sport compact world, where in our neck of the woods, our engine output is the same of our spec engines as it is in Japan. Swapping in a JDM 4G63 turbo engine into my Eagle Talon would mean that I could possibly get slightly bigger injectors, and mabey a different turbo then my car came with stock. Woopee! And mabey I don't care what kind of sweatbands my car is sporting, because it dosn't sweat anything underneath the hood, and they won't make my car any faster. Mabey some of those "spoon" stickers would help me though........
Anybody care to inform me on this subject?
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yovanilla
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| Joined: 08/05
Posted: 08/09/05 04:29 AM
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the idea is, or was, to build the car as we never got it from honda but was offered elsewhere. i.e. since the civic type r was not a united states offering, you might build your own replica as close to the real thing as possible and to do so you would source real parts from japan such as the higher output engine, interior fabric or wheels and brakes.
of course it didnt stay that way; the fad kind of took over and thats why now you see jdm washer nozzles and seat belt pads or what not.
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Posted: 08/09/05 09:55 AM
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i'm so angry i'm gonna break my jdm windows + how is it JDM if you strip out your interior??
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Dr_Seuss
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| Posts: 22
| Joined: 07/05
Posted: 08/09/05 08:21 PM
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Pardon me for "stirring the [censored]" so to say, but for the longest time, I've tried to grasp the concept of the whole "JDM" thing. I mean, I basicly know what it consists of: making your car "authentic" so to speak, with that of Japanese parts, or OEM Japanese parts of that particular make. But I really think that people have taken it to far.
For example, I've recently met a local guy who's Acura RSX has been outfitted with "authetic JDM parts", including sweatbands that bare the name "Spoon" on his brake and clutch fluid resevoirs. Now, mabey I'm a little slow here, but buying $30 (or more) a piece sweatbands for your fluid resivours is "cool"? He also has other "mad JDM tyte" parts such as special Japanese wheels, Spoon stickers, with the little bird (apparently kitchen utensils and cranes go hand in hand, and are also cool) and plans to outfit his car with some individual throttle bodies, which though very expensive, yeild very small gains in terms of power and overall performance.
I find this amazingly retarted, and wonder why the "tuner" crowd chooses to do this. Though slightly better aesteticly than the former popular all-out-rice mode, I find it incredible that one would spend thousands of dollars on a car to make it "authenticly" Japanese, though the car looks not much different, nor do most of the parts do anything versus USDM parts. I also think it's funny when people "badge" their cars with those from their Japanese counterparts. Like "oh, sorry sir, I couldn't tell you drive a 240SX, those "SILVIA" badges throw me waaaay off....". Please.... I find that most offenders (I'm so suprised) are Honda owners. I don't know, I'm just so confused. Mabey it's because I come from the DSM spectrum of the sport compact world, where in our neck of the woods, our engine output is the same of our spec engines as it is in Japan. Swapping in a JDM 4G63 turbo engine into my Eagle Talon would mean that I could possibly get slightly bigger injectors, and mabey a different turbo then my car came with stock. Woopee! And mabey I don't care what kind of sweatbands my car is sporting, because it dosn't sweat anything underneath the hood, and they won't make my car any faster. Mabey some of those "spoon" stickers would help me though........
Anybody care to inform me on this subject?
Sweatbands...their called reservoir covers and just to let you know, those sweatbands actually serve a purpose. About badging the car the way it is in Japan..such as the Acura RSX to the Honda Integra. The car is really a Honda Integra but is badged differently in the states so they can make money. So if somebody badges their car to a Honda Integra if they have a RSX..I don't see the problem there. I can understand if you see a civic and it has Type R stickers on it but is not right hand drive, is not rolling on a 5 lug configuration, etc. Now when it comes to Japanese wheels on a Japanese car..again I don't see a problem. Almost all Japanese manufacturers such as Yokohama, Top Fuel, Spoon, Mugen, Rays Engineering, etc. produce quality parts which outperform the American made parts and are made of higher quality. If you had an Eclipse, and wanted to choose rims for it, and you had the choices of Arospeed or Rays Engineering. If you think the rims from both manufacturers are the same...then you have a lot of research to do b/c there way different. To sum it up, Japanese parts = quality stuff.
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yovanilla
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Posted: 08/10/05 03:55 AM
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About badging the car the way it is in Japan..such as the Acura RSX to the Honda Integra. The car is really a Honda Integra but is badged differently in the states so they can make money.
it's lame. it's no different than euro fanboys putting "bora" and "vento" badges on their jettas.
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DRSLT1
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Posted: 08/10/05 08:16 AM
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About badging the car the way it is in Japan..such as the Acura RSX to the Honda Integra. The car is really a Honda Integra but is badged differently in the states so they can make money. So if somebody badges their car to a Honda Integra if they have a RSX..I don't see the problem there
So that makes it cool? So like, if I have a Pontiac Trans Am, and it's made by Pontiac, but a Z28 Camaro is the same thing and it's a Chevrolet, can I put bowties and Z28 badges on my Trans Am? I guess that gives extra "style points". Code:
Sweatbands...their called reservoir covers and just to let you know, those sweatbands actually serve a purpose. To keep the clutch and brake fluid from getting to chilly and catching a cold? Please...
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Now when it comes to Japanese wheels on a Japanese car..again I don't see a problem. Almost all Japanese manufacturers such as Yokohama, Top Fuel, Spoon, Mugen, Rays Engineering, etc. produce quality parts which outperform the American made parts and are made of higher quality.
Any proof of that? Are you saying that their alloys are stronger than the alloys of that of an equal price range American made wheel? Wheels arent as big of a deal, but who's to say that they are significantly better in all cases.
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yovanilla
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Posted: 08/10/05 09:17 AM
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So that makes it cool? So like, if I have a Pontiac Trans Am, and it's made by Pontiac, but a Z28 Camaro is the same thing and it's a Chevrolet, can I put bowties and Z28 badges on my Trans Am? I guess that gives extra "style points".
no no no you've got it all wrong. you wouldn't use camaro badging. that's an equal car. you need CORVETTE badges because with yout cutout and lid you've now got corvette performance at f-body price lolol
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allengine
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| Joined: 06/05
Posted: 08/11/05 09:38 AM
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How come I never heard of sweatband master cylinder covers? Does it make my brakes perform better? Does it make me shift faster?.... I at one point wanted to turn my car to original Japanese specifications, along with the original names, etc. ... Then I realized I was playing to much video games and I was 15 years old, JDM... so little kid ago.
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vundeis
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Posted: 08/11/05 12:16 PM
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hahahahaha dude that's [censored] awesome. and superstreet, stop censoring me, i have freedom of speech you know.
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Posted: 08/11/05 05:25 PM
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ok this is to everyone, those are there for a perpose, as everyone knows (i hope) brake fluid takes paint off really fast, the brake and master cylinders eslecially on honda cars don't have a great seals and can leak if sloshed around, so in racing especially in autocross the Gs that happen,(acceleration, braking and turning) will slosh the fluid around you will have some leaking out they are there to absorbe it and keep the brake fluid off the paint/engine compartment.
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Posted: 08/11/05 10:54 PM
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it's lame. it's no different than euro fanboys putting "bora" and "vento" badges on their jettas.
Here in Tucson most Jettas look like that, because thats how the sell them in Mexico (which is like a 30 minute drive from my house). We also have Ford Mondeo's (Contour), Ford LOBO's (F-150, there are a lot more but I can't remember them right now.
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yovanilla
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Posted: 08/12/05 08:33 AM
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ok this is to everyone, those are there for a perpose, as everyone knows (i hope) brake fluid takes paint off really fast, the brake and master cylinders eslecially on honda cars don't have a great seals and can leak if sloshed around, so in racing especially in autocross the Gs that happen,(acceleration, braking and turning) will slosh the fluid around you will have some leaking out they are there to absorbe it and keep the brake fluid off the paint/engine compartment.
yeah right . if the seal was poor enough to allow leakage, then it would also be poor enough to allow moisture to creep into the system, resulting in enough brake failures to warrant a federal safety recall.
either way, a sweatband isnt going to keep the fluid in. if that was the real problem someone would have found a jdm-sweet (lol ) cap with a better seal to fix the problem instead.
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Posted: 08/12/05 09:41 AM
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First of all if you knew anything about autocross, you would know that those covers come in handy. Also people don't need to dis JDM if they don't know the entire aspect of JDM. Yeah there are people that go around and put "type R" on there civics and have nothing R on it. They are stupid. Those are "ricers". The products that are JDM like mugen, Spoon, Jun, Skunk2 , Toda. Those companies make very good parts for Hondas, if you are wanting some power gains. Tell me this would you trust a foreign part or domestic part for your american cars? I like JDM because my car was made over there and I trust those parts more for my car then I would trust parts on my car from america. Jun made a 4th gen prelude have 270 whp n/a. That is a big improvement. Some JDM parts are expensive or a little pricey, but it is better then the parts america makes for Japanese made vehicles. Also america doesn't get the top makes for alot of cars. Like the Civic type R and did you know that they have made the Rx-7 all the way up to 2001. Also it would be awesome to have some Japanese cars that we don't get in america from dealerships. America didn't start getting the Lancer Evolutions until around 03-04, Japan had them since 1993. I just say stop this trash talk on it, mainly because your just making yourself look stupid.lol! ![]() Say what you want, I'll just laugh it off. No point arguing about it with people that will never comprehend it.
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yovanilla
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Posted: 08/12/05 09:57 AM
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First of all if you knew anything about autocross, you would know that those covers come in handy.
oh i know a few things about autocross, don't worry
I just say stop this trash talk on it, mainly because your just making yourself look stupid.lol! ![]() Say what you want, I'll just laugh it off. No point arguing about it with people that will never comprehend it.
lol dont break out your jump to conclusions mat just yet. just because i'm not head-over-heels for jdm sweetness doesn't mean i don't know a thing or two about a thing or two
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Posted: 08/12/05 12:15 PM
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Ok, whatever. I am not into American cars and flashy *** , Eurotrash and all that ugly cheap crap(rice). So really for me JDM is good for me cause it is clean and it is quality. I am sure you know the saying quality over quantity. I don't care if i could get american products cheaper so I could get more. I want something good and reliable that gives me more driving performance that is from Japan, cause they know what works for my car better. Besides if you don't like JDM that is your decision. For those that do though this whole thread is retarded to them. They do take offense in a since, and also they laugh cause they just think these people must have rice *** all over there cars, or have a american car. I don't start a thread and say ford sucks and all that! i'm out.
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