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FlipInSilvia
New User | Posts: 37 | Joined: 05/05
Posted: 07/15/05
11:37 AM

Im just wonderin, what do u guys recommend i do with my Zenki S14? Should i do the cheap easy way and get a S13 SR20DET? or should i get the S14/S15. Should i get Silvia S14 body panels? Give me some ideas. Thanks for makin Super Street one of the greatest magazines ever.  


 
KoketsuCivicSi
User | Posts: 220 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 07/15/05
01:46 PM

how much are you willing to spend  


 
rice_hunter05l
User | Posts: 88 | Joined: 01/05
Posted: 07/15/05
04:39 PM

if i heard correctly, the s13/14 engines are pretty much drop-in's, but the S15 is very complicating to do. i think u should go for a full JDM S14 conversion, engine and body and all :-D  


 
FlipInSilvia
New User | Posts: 37 | Joined: 05/05
Posted: 07/21/05
09:55 PM

S14 SR20DET Blacktop (price includes engine and 5-speed tranny) $2475
1.Exhaust
HKS Hi Power exhaust system $665
Megan Racing exhaust manifold $250
HKS downpipe $215
2.Intake
Greddy intake manifold  $495
HKS Super Mega Flow intake kit $170
HKS Z32 air flow adaptor $55
3.Oil
HKS oil cooler kit $640
Greddy Oil Pan $325
Kazama oil pan protector $148
ARC Oil Catch Can $260
OEM oil pump assembly $240
4.Fuel
HKS 740cc fuel injectors $222
Tomei Fuel pump kit $320
5.Electrical
HKS F-Con V Pro $850
HKS iridium spark plugs $20
HKS Twin Power DLI $289
HKS Circle earth system $155
6.Engine components
Greddy Metal 1.2mm head gasket $240
Toda forged piston kit 86mm Bore and Piston ring set $1350
Greddy Lightweight pulley kit $239
Tomei head bolt washers $55
Greddy Grex Rocker arm stoppers $70
7.Valvetrain
HKS 264 Intake/264 Exhaust cams $430
HKS valvesprings $265
HKS Adjustable cam gears $350
8.Drivetrain
Nismo 2-way LSD $950
Greddy Large Differential Cover $300
Nismo Stainless steel clutch line $90
HKS Full Single plate clutch kit $1020
Toda lightweight Flywheel $450
9.Turbo related.
HKS Type-S front mount intercooler $1120
HKS GT-RS Turbo upgrade kit $2290
Blitz Super Sound Blowoff Valve $350
HKS Type 1 Turbo Timer $155
HKS EVC-V Boost Controller $530
HKS GT Wastegate $910
Taka turbo lines $170
10.Engine cooling
Koyo S14 Aluminum Radiator $416
Nismo Thermostat $80
Flex-a-Lite 220 Electric fan $250
Blitz Cooling Performer hoses $120
11.Other
Nismo Engine/Transmission mounts $250
OEM:  O2 Sensors $139
Drivebelt set $65
Water pump $160
Crank angle sensor $350
Timing Chain Tensioner $80
Oil Pump Assembly $300
Spark plug cover $94
Timing Chain Kit $89
Timing Chain Guides $130
Crank front main seal $14
Crank rear main seal $20
Ignition Coil $80
PCV valve $45
Intake and exhaust valves $400
Wires, Fuel lines, Oil lines $1000 (im willing to get the best for the engine)
Throwout bearing $35
S14 SR20DET ECU $260
Con-Rod bearings $52
Main Crank bearing $100
12.Brakes
Rotora Front Brake kit $2095
Rotora Rear Rotors $260
Brembo rear brake pads $50
Earl’s Hyperfirm Brake line kit $169
13.Suspension
Energy Suspension bushing kit $90
Tein Flex Coilovers $1560
Tein tie rod and tie rod ends $170
Cusco 30mm front sway bar $300
Cusco 21mm rear sway bar $227
Cusco RUCA $365
Cusco rear lower toe control arms $295
Cusco front upper camber link arms $330
JIC Magic Traction rods $352
Nismo Power Brace $160
Battle Version TC rods $210
Kazama Tension support bar $110
JIC Rear Camber rods $350
APEXi Front Strut Bar $172
14.Interior
Recaro speed 5-point harness seat $750
Sparco 3-point harness $90
Nismo GT Aluminum Shift Knob $144
B&M Short Throw Shifter $180
Pro Street Quick Release Steering Wheel Hub $100
MOMO Fighter Steering Wheel $350
Cusco 6-point rollcage $842
15.Aero/Exterior
Greddy Gracer Aero kit $1975
Rota Subzeros 18x7.5 4x114.3 $640
Versus Carbon Fiber hood $400
Chargespeed Carbon Fiber trunk lid $600
F1 Carbon Fiber mirrors $170

All comes up to $37,163

this is my idea....wutyall think about it?  


 
FlipInSilvia
New User | Posts: 37 | Joined: 05/05
Posted: 07/21/05
09:57 PM

hows that?  


 
EF1_Macky
New User | Posts: 48 | Joined: 06/05
Posted: 07/22/05
01:32 AM

with all the performance parts available now for the k24, I'll stick with that. Don't underestimate the potential of the good ol' k. Plus you're not always guaranteed of getting a quality sr20det anyways because you might end up w/ a lemon engine.  


 
FlipInSilvia
New User | Posts: 37 | Joined: 05/05
Posted: 07/22/05
03:59 PM

yeah...good point....the KA, eh....its..um....big...heavy...and i heard it was easy to punch a hole through the side of the block...so i dunno...unless i get a bulletproof RB26DETT motor XD  


 
Stevo
New User | Posts: 21 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 07/29/05
03:58 PM

I have a 1989 240 bought for $400 and spent $3400 for the engine transmission and complete rear cradle from a Silvia. I think the $37,000 budget is a little high. My friend a loyal Honda man just finished his first Nissan with a Blacktop swap it was a little harder than the redtop.

Heres pics of those swaps being done I take lots of pictures to show the progress.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/redline_sh...shift/my_photos

Heres the new right hand drive RB project im working on now.

http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/redline_sh...shift/my_photos

What ever swap you choose just be aware of the differences between the OBD1 and OBD2 engines as far as difficulty. OBD2 or S15 (blacktop) will have more sensors to wire up. You can go the easy route and send the harness off to be spliced like my friend did. The harness came back in beautiful condition and was completely wrapped from one end to the other just like factory.

Avoid the RB26Dett unless you have alot of money for the Skyline front clip like I used. I also had to change the motormounts to make the engine sit low enough to clear the hood.  


 
12sec240sx
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 08/06/05
09:07 AM

Wow that is a list, and look at what your buying ARC,Kazama oil pan protector $148 Tomei Fuel pump kit $320 HKS F-Con V Pro $850 Greddy Metal 1.2mm head gasket $240
Toda forged piston kit 86mm Bore and Piston ring set $1350

Well i can save you some money right here:
Walbro fuel pump
comectic head gasket
Cp pistons
Crower Rods
Power enterprizes oil catch can
Kazama oil pan protector- delete that-
Uhhh lets see dont waste the time on a F-con spend a little more and go AEM.

So there's a start

you need too go too the tamparacing forums and look up a Enthalpy(scott avoy) does tuning for S13's and S14's

Comp valve springs that will save you too.

Oh spend some more for a full race manifold, that megan will crack if you do alot of drifting and hard driving. Those welds are so thin. spend 1200 and get the full race.
Also buy a downpipe with a flex joint in it, you have a HKS catback to a downpipe strait too a the turbo outlet pipe and then the turbo, no flex at all in the whole exhaust system, that's why the manifolds(the cheaper ones crack alot of times) b/c you have all the weight hanging on the manifold.

This is what i have and i'm already running 12's in the 1/4mile.
1995 240sx base model

S14 SR20DET Blacktop
HKS piping kit
HKS Type S front mount
HKS green filter
HKS Downpipe
HKS super seq. b.o.v.
Z32MAF sensor w/ tomei kit and harness
Tomei/Nismo 555cc injectors
Greddy boost controller
Greddy Emanage w/ E0-1 Screen
Mr. Gasket copper exhaust manifold gasket
Apex N-1 Cat-back
Cat-delete pipe
J30 limited slip
taka stainless steel turbo lines
shaved flywheel
spec stage III clutch
B&M short shifter(obx is crap)
Walbro fuel pump 255

i have just that and i'm running mid too low 12's in the 1/4mile and i'm still on the stock T28 although, it's not gonna get me any further until i upgrade the turbo.  


 
DRSLT1
Enthusiast | Posts: 395 | Joined: 03/04
Posted: 08/06/05
09:19 AM

Your using Greddy E-manage? It hasn't been out that long. What were you using as far as tuning goes before that? SAFC?

Do you guys have trouble sealing the cometic head gasket?  


 
12sec240sx
New User | Posts: 2 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 08/06/05
11:19 AM

The greddy E-manage has been out for a while, and i made 273 wrhp at 15lbs of boost, when the e-manage.  Unless your talking about the new black addition that is out, that has more features.  Also so far no problems with the cometic head gaskets at all, i have two friends; 1 with a s14 with an s13 motor and another buddy of mine with a s13 coupe with an s13 motor, that are both running cometics' and they both have over 500 horsepower too the wheels. I'm only around like 310whp.  


 
Kyle
User | Posts: 62 | Joined: 07/05
Posted: 08/08/05
04:29 PM

If you do the SR swap, your best bet would be the Red Top because it has the high port head. The Black tops may have more power from the factory, but due to the fact that they have a low port head they are unable to make as much power in the long run. The black tops have a low port head because they have variable valve timing, which you will negate once you drop in racing cams. Not only that, but they are cheaper and easier to come by. The only differences between the JDM and USDM S14's are the motor, and the JDM is RHD.  


 
yovanilla
Enthusiast | Posts: 420 | Joined: 08/05
Posted: 08/08/05
05:28 PM

Quote:

S14 SR20DET Blacktop (price includes engine and 5-speed tranny) $2475
1.Exhaust
HKS Hi Power exhaust system $665
Megan Racing exhaust manifold $250
HKS downpipe $215
2.Intake
Greddy intake manifold  $495
HKS Super Mega Flow intake kit $170
HKS Z32 air flow adaptor $55
3.Oil
HKS oil cooler kit $640
Greddy Oil Pan $325
Kazama oil pan protector $148
ARC Oil Catch Can $260
OEM oil pump assembly $240
4.Fuel
HKS 740cc fuel injectors $222
Tomei Fuel pump kit $320
5.Electrical
HKS F-Con V Pro $850
HKS iridium spark plugs $20
HKS Twin Power DLI $289
HKS Circle earth system $155
6.Engine components
Greddy Metal 1.2mm head gasket $240
Toda forged piston kit 86mm Bore and Piston ring set $1350
Greddy Lightweight pulley kit $239
Tomei head bolt washers $55
Greddy Grex Rocker arm stoppers $70
7.Valvetrain
HKS 264 Intake/264 Exhaust cams $430
HKS valvesprings $265
HKS Adjustable cam gears $350
8.Drivetrain
Nismo 2-way LSD $950
Greddy Large Differential Cover $300
Nismo Stainless steel clutch line $90
HKS Full Single plate clutch kit $1020
Toda lightweight Flywheel $450
9.Turbo related.
HKS Type-S front mount intercooler $1120
HKS GT-RS Turbo upgrade kit $2290
Blitz Super Sound Blowoff Valve $350
HKS Type 1 Turbo Timer $155
HKS EVC-V Boost Controller $530
HKS GT Wastegate $910
Taka turbo lines $170
10.Engine cooling
Koyo S14 Aluminum Radiator $416
Nismo Thermostat $80
Flex-a-Lite 220 Electric fan $250
Blitz Cooling Performer hoses $120
11.Other
Nismo Engine/Transmission mounts $250
OEM:  O2 Sensors $139
Drivebelt set $65
Water pump $160
Crank angle sensor $350
Timing Chain Tensioner $80
Oil Pump Assembly $300
Spark plug cover $94
Timing Chain Kit $89
Timing Chain Guides $130
Crank front main seal $14
Crank rear main seal $20
Ignition Coil $80
PCV valve $45
Intake and exhaust valves $400
Wires, Fuel lines, Oil lines $1000 (im willing to get the best for the engine)
Throwout bearing $35
S14 SR20DET ECU $260
Con-Rod bearings $52
Main Crank bearing $100
12.Brakes
Rotora Front Brake kit $2095
Rotora Rear Rotors $260
Brembo rear brake pads $50
Earl’s Hyperfirm Brake line kit $169
13.Suspension
Energy Suspension bushing kit $90
Tein Flex Coilovers $1560
Tein tie rod and tie rod ends $170
Cusco 30mm front sway bar $300
Cusco 21mm rear sway bar $227
Cusco RUCA $365
Cusco rear lower toe control arms $295
Cusco front upper camber link arms $330
JIC Magic Traction rods $352
Nismo Power Brace $160
Battle Version TC rods $210
Kazama Tension support bar $110
JIC Rear Camber rods $350
APEXi Front Strut Bar $172
14.Interior
Recaro speed 5-point harness seat $750
Sparco 3-point harness $90
Nismo GT Aluminum Shift Knob $144
B&M Short Throw Shifter $180
Pro Street Quick Release Steering Wheel Hub $100
MOMO Fighter Steering Wheel $350
Cusco 6-point rollcage $842
15.Aero/Exterior
Greddy Gracer Aero kit $1975
Rota Subzeros 18x7.5 4x114.3 $640
Versus Carbon Fiber hood $400
Chargespeed Carbon Fiber trunk lid $600
F1 Carbon Fiber mirrors $170

All comes up to $37,163

this is my idea....wutyall think about it?




i think for $37163 i would buy an evo mr and engine management.  

 
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