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To all you supposed "street racers"
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vundeis
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| Joined: 01/01
Posted: 06/24/05 08:38 PM
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quit lying. i'm sick of the lying. it was way before 90 that all the americanc ars went to [censored]. imo it was after the muscle car erra died and they had the oil crisis.
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Stevo
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| Posts: 21
| Joined: 07/05
Posted: 07/07/05 07:25 PM
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I'll be waiting on you....
Project R3240SX>> http://pg.photos.yahoo.com/ph/redline_sh...shift/my_photos
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Posted: 07/08/05 04:57 PM
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there is nothing wrong with a v8, take the fastest japanese import and pair it up agianst a, lets say shelby cobra repoduction with a 427 chevy v8 running twin turbos, its putting down about 1000-1200hp and can still turn and race on road courses. with that car its not about drivability or gas milage its just raw power and i bet you would not win. after i finsih my hodna i'm going to build one of those. mayeb not with 1200hp but it will have a 427 with twin turbos on it. i would say a nice 700hp figure suits me just fine. and remember i'm a import lover but to some of the cars you have got to give it up.
ok Why would you run it with twin turbos they dont spur up fast enough for a engine like that, so a nice supercharger would do the trick because it is running constant.
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Posted: 07/08/05 05:49 PM
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do you have any clue how turbos opertate, i mean dude, the bigger the motor the more air it pumps the faster it will spool a turbo, if i can get a 1.6L motor to spool one turbo at 3000rpm to full boost you think i can't get a 7.4l motor to spool two turbos. they wil spool fast enough and if you took a supercharged motor and put it up against a twin turbo motor it woould not stand a chance, the twin turbo motor makes power so fast your head will spin, look banks has a twin turbo package they tested on a 366ci motor and at 3800rpm it was already making 9psi of boost. or when they ran it with 100octain at 3800rpm it was making 18psi of boost. at 20psi with 100 octain they made almost 1200hp. check out the torque : banks turbo motor
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Posted: 07/08/05 06:23 PM
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dude did you not read my words I said turbos arent constant superchagers are. you should know this!take the same exact car and look up the specs on a super charged and look at the specs of a turbo, you will see that the super charged has won.
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Posted: 07/08/05 08:36 PM
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what does it win, it will win nothing for the most power the turbo will always outperform a supercharger, and i don't want instant boost think about it, instant boost that means instant power, a 427 aleady is a torqe monster do you want more, you will have so much that you will never hook up, i like to have turbo lag, because it delays power untill your moving thus improving tracion. take two equal motors run the same psi on both , one with turbos and one with a supercharger, the one with a supcharger will make about 40% less power then the turbo ones, becaause thast how much it take to turn a supcharger. and also a supcharged engine will get less mpg because the supercharger is always connected to the motor so it always drags on the engine.
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Posted: 07/11/05 09:35 AM
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A super chager only takes 15 to 23 horsess to run it.
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Posted: 07/11/05 10:31 AM
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thats relative, the more boost you run, the bigger the blower the more pwoer it will suck down, yeah 23hp is for a M45 supercharger running 8psi on a 1.6L motor but once you go with like a m112 running 20psi thats a totally different story, lets not even get into how much its heats the intake charge. here is a good example of supercharger vs turbo a jackson racing supercharger on a honda 1.6l soch motor makes about 140hp at 8psi, while my turbo car with a homemade turbo put down 170hp at 6psi. where is the efficency, with two more psi I would have been close to 190wheel hp. now supchargers have their place like running road courses yeah they are great for the instant boost comming out of corners but with a good tuned turbo motor you cna almost get the samething and when a straightaway comes the turbo car will blow right by.
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Stevo
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| Posts: 21
| Joined: 07/05
Posted: 07/11/05 12:22 PM
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If i have to worry about a belt breaking im not down with it....but im jaded...i have 2 turbos on my RB26DETT one for 3 cyl!Ha. Anything that sucks away horsepower to make horsepower im not interested....besides Im in love with my boost controller...If i gotta change a pully to get more boost that just aint my thang when i can push a button.
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Posted: 07/11/05 10:30 PM
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i don't mean to knock superchargers, they are great for some things like: drag racing( instant boost), stock cars that will run low boost, that means a slow spinning supercharger and no IAT heating problems, and they are easier to take care of. i mean here is a great example take the new ford gt its supercharegd (great car), have you seen that thing take off, it can't get traction, and thats the superchargers fault, i think if you had that same motor but turboed, it you could run less boost(less ware and tear on the motor) and still make more power, and you would have a more controlable take off. i mean have you ever seen ferrari use superchargers, no they used turbos form the factory.
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Posted: 07/13/05 01:00 PM
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thats relative, the more boost you run, the bigger the blower the more pwoer it will suck down, yeah 23hp is for a M45 supercharger running 8psi on a 1.6L motor but once you go with like a m112 running 20psi thats a totally different story, lets not even get into how much its heats the intake charge. here is a good example of supercharger vs turbo a jackson racing supercharger on a honda 1.6l soch motor makes about 140hp at 8psi, while my turbo car with a homemade turbo put down 170hp at 6psi. where is the efficency, with two more psi I would have been close to 190wheel hp. now supchargers have their place like running road courses yeah they are great for the instant boost comming out of corners but with a good tuned turbo motor you cna almost get the samething and when a straightaway comes the turbo car will blow right by.
yes but your turbo is custom so you its made to perform to its best. If you had a custom charger than it would perform just as well. yes i do agree with you about the charger doing better on certain tracks but on the quater mile you would want the charger so you can come off the line faster and get through those gears faster.
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Posted: 07/13/05 06:35 PM
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that turbo is not custom lol, its a turbo off of a 1991 eclipse with 150,000 miles on it. i never even cleaned it just dropped it into the car as is. well i think its relative today bother supercharged dragsters and turbo dragsters are running almost the same times. jeez i mean look at the AEM civic its running a twin turbo v6 and pushing 6.6 times and it could be a lot faster if they can get it to hook right. its hanging with the big v8s with a small v6.
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Posted: 07/15/05 03:48 PM
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well you said it was home made before so I just assumed that it was custom. but anyways you seem to understand it all and you seem to be a nice guy.
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Posted: 07/18/05 11:37 PM
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What was the first question again? Oh yea, why do we supposed street racers blah blah blah at dawn. Maybe because they-----------want to? And if it was so easy to beat that car or man on the tricycle, why brag about it?
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Neon_guy
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| Posts: 133
| Joined: 11/04
Posted: 07/22/05 09:14 AM
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You wanna know why I street race? When I was young, my dad used to race. Me and him built a 10 second car. I'm scared of it. But now, I live my life a quarter mile at a time. It doesn't matter if I win by an inch or a mile. Winning is winning. I have nitrous sytem that can blow the floor panels off if I run it to hard. But, they will magically reappear if someone needs to sit in my car. So, you think you can beat ME? With about 30 grand, if you overnight some parts from Japan, you might be able to salvage something. But, keep it on the low. Cuz I AIN'T NEVA NARK ON NOBODY!!! I AIN'T NEVA NARK ON NOBODY!!
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